In this episode, Angie Austin welcomes back her good friend Arlene Pelican to discuss National Marriage Week. Celebrate a love story 25 years in the making and explore valuable tips for maintaining a happy and enduring marriage. Learn about innovative ideas to connect with your spouse, even amidst the busy lives of raising teenagers. Angie and Arlene offer insights to boost marriage happiness and discuss how to foster meaningful connections that last a lifetime.
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here’s Angie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin and Jim Stovall with The Good News talking about his weekly winner’s wisdom column, Freedom and Boundaries, this week. Hey, Jim. Hey, it is always great to be with you. Great to be with you. We’ve got so many sports. Sometimes I send you pictures of my kids. My daughter’s a junior, and she went to a small Christian university this weekend, and she said that the coach stopped the game because she was playing with the actual team. She stopped the game to come over and high-five my daughter because she’s very powerful, so when she does a kill, it’s hard to stop the ball. you know, and it’ll either like deflect off into the stands or they can’t even like get to it because it’s so fast. So she’s like, mom, they stopped the game so the coach could come high five me. I’m like, well, that’s a good sign. So I thought you’d get a kick out of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Even people that don’t know a lot about volleyball know that’s a good thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. Yes, that’s a good thing. Oh, and they changed her. Her club team changed her position. As a junior, they moved her from outside to middle because they were having some middle issues. And so she was like, wow, that’s weird. I don’t know this position. But, you know, I was proud of her, Jim. She just kept a smile on her face and got in there. And I could see her talking to other middles like, where do I do that? Right. Do I do that? Not asking questions. And so, yeah, by the time she was done, she looked pretty good. I mean, by the time the whole day was done, she’d really started to catch on. So I was proud of her for not. You see a lot of sulkers. You know, you played sports. You see a lot of sulkers on the bench. A lot of sulkers.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, and people have to understand being on the bench is a great role. And, you know, a lot of times coaches will put some of their best players on there. It’s not a matter of who gets to start or who doesn’t, who gets to play. And a lot of the players that are on the bench are people that can come off the bench and be ready to go right into a game and play. And that’s a different skill. Some people can’t do that. So I think it’s great. And, you know, life lessons. You know, there’s nowhere else you can learn some of the life lessons you learn in sports.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I would say, and I know that for you, you know, being a football player and then Olympic weightlifter, that I just think it teaches you so much, you know, in terms of teamwork. And I know John Wooden, who I think has the best quotes in like the United States of America from his time as a coach and, you know, all of his winning years coaching college basketball. And So many of the lessons that he taught that still resonate today have to do with how you grow as an athlete and the things you learn and the maturity that you get. But I see a lot of kids crying on the sidelines. And my daughter, I have to say, that’s one thing they always credit her with is that she is the biggest cheerleader. She’s very loud. She’s very encouraging. And I saw… one girl crying and um my daughter went over they were at other ends of the you know they don’t sit by the way on the bench their stand on the bench so they were either opposite ends of the line and so there’s six girls standing and six girls playing and the volleyball anyway she went to the far end and i saw her holding like her arms and staring at her eyes showing her deep breathing methods to try to come out of this um funk that she was in with crying and kind of having a lot of anxiety because she got pulled, obviously, for mistakes. And that freaks a lot of kids out. But I have to say, of all the kids that get pulled, I think that’s the thing I’m most proud of her for, that she does not feel sorry for herself, that she really encourages the other girls.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is a great thing. And, you know, whether you learn how to spike or serve or do all the other things you do in volleyball, you know, 20, 30 years from now, that won’t matter in our life. But learning how to be a great teammate and a team player, that will matter.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, I agree. And I know you teach a lot about that in your Winner’s Wisdom columns. And today we are talking about your column titled Freedom and Boundaries. Oh, that sounds good. What’s this all about?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, a lot of people think freedom is not having anything to do and financial freedom is having enough money to where you never have to worry about it again. In reality, freedom is a matter of setting boundaries that you can control yourself and you can control your life, your time, your finances, and all the things that matter. And when I was a kid, we moved into a new neighborhood of little tiny houses in this new neighborhood, and there were no fences, there were no grass or trees, and people were just moving in and starting. And because there were no fences, people kind of stayed away from the boundary, and they wouldn’t put their garden in all the way to the boundary, or they were careful that they didn’t get to the boundary. But then over the years, they put in fences… And all of a sudden, now people felt the freedom. Okay, now I know where the boundary is. Oh, that’s so true. It’s so true. I’ll do all this stuff. And the same thing is true. I know a lot of people question me. Why, if you don’t have to, do you work so hard and you have a list of things for today and a big calendar and a pending list and a project list and all the things you do? Well, I control those lists. Those lists allow me to do what I want to do in this life. and use them. And it’s not a matter of giving up your will. I mean, one of the most controlling environments you can have is to be in the military. But people take that oath of their own free will, and they submit to that. So in essence, it’s a freedom. They give up that to get something they really want. So, you know, freedom is not… Having nothing to do. Freedom is controlling your life. And my great friend Steve Forbes once said that, you know, people think they want to do nothing. He said doing nothing is the hardest work you’ll ever do in your life. Now, it’s great for a vacation. It’s great for a couple of days or a few weeks to escape. But it’s a constant way of life. It’s like eating cotton candy all day every day. I mean, if you’re at the fair and you want to enjoy it once a year, great. But, boy, you get a steady diet of that stuff, and it’ll make you crazy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my gosh. That is crazy. That is crazy. Okay, so in terms of what you want us to take away, what you want us to learn, obviously that a couple of days of freedom is fine, but living a life like that. But I think a lot of people can’t pull themselves out of the fun to do what’s difficult.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you’ve got to think about what you want out of your life. Because every day when you finish your day and you put your head on the pillow, you know, you have to look back at what did I accomplish today? And am I one day closer or one day farther from my goal? Because it better be worth whatever you got out of today because you gave up a whole day of your life to get whatever you had today. And there are days where, okay, I need to rest and relax and do those things. That’s very, very important. It’s important annually to do that, you know, with a little bit of vacation time. It’s important periodically to do that with the weekend. It’s very important to do that on Sundays and spend time with your family and worship and, you know, just have downtime. But, you know, the rest of the time you want to run as fast and as far as you can toward the goals, the things that you’ve determined matter to you. And then when you get there, it’s not all these things controlling you. You’re in control. You know, I’m not controlled by my calendars and all the things I’ve set up to maximize my time. I set them up. You know, I control them. And that’s the most powerful thing you’ll ever do, when you can control your time and focus your energy towards something you really want.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that. You know, a lot of your advice is about personal responsibility and kind of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps and kind of taking life by the horns, which I think I did that, you know, when I was younger. But as I’ve gotten older, I think I’ve gotten a lot more complacent. And yes, I give myself credit for raising really great kids. They are wonderful. And I have a 20 year marriage and everything. And I’m good to my mom. I’m good to my pets. But I feel like professionally that I’ve become a lot more complacent. And I do place value in what I do with the good news. But the drive for financial success and career success, I don’t have that like I used to. And a lot of times I’m kind of like not ashamed of myself, disappointed in myself for not being a little more driven. You’ve been able to keep that drive. But I think as men, there is a financial pressure on you. I mean, Crystal likes to shop. So there’s definitely…
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s important that you have the goals that matter to you. And, you know, I don’t have financial goals anymore. I, I, uh, My money generates more money than I do. All the financial goals we have are giving away more money to our foundation that helps scholarships and the various projects we have around the world. It’s not going to make any difference for me, but that motivates me. One more scholarship, one more thing, that keeps me going. If it was just a matter of me having another house or another car, I don’t care. You know, so, you know, it’s really about focusing on the things that matter. And, you know, when you talk about the things you are doing, your marriage, your kids, the things you do creating a home, there’s no higher goal than those things right there. I mean, if you gain the whole world and you lose your soul or you make a billion dollars, but, you know, you wreck your kids or your health or something else, you have not succeeded in anything.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I would say so. And, you know, and maybe for, you know, personally, maybe that’ll change for me, you know, once my kids are grown, maybe I’ll get that drive again or maybe not. I mean, there does come a time when people retire and, you know, enjoy kind of the fruits of their labor per se. Do you think that’ll ever be you? Because I don’t really see that being you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, as long as I have books I want to write and movies I want to make and things I want to do, and then when I look at the kids at the Stovall Center at the university, that gives me a lot to do that matters to me. And not to say it won’t change or evolve or do different things, but… No, I just don’t see happy people as being people who’ve retired. I just turned 65 years old, which is a fascinating experience. But when I look at my mentors, my late great father, and three of my biggest mentors, Paul Harvey, Art Linkletter, and, of course, Coach John Wooden, all did some of their best work in their 90s. Really? Yeah. So, you know, and my dad ran a retirement center for about 35 years. And, you know, the people around there that were happiest were the people that were still doing things, still active. And, you know, we only need three things to be happy. Angie, you and I have talked about it before. We’ve got to have something to do, someone to love, and something to look forward to. And a lot of people, wow, they lose a lot of that when they slow down because they no longer have something to do and they don’t have much to look forward to. And you’ve got to have all three things, something to do, someone to love, and something to look forward to.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I think about my friend’s dad. He’s passed away and the mom and my girlfriend. But I love I see them out for dinner like once a week. They went, you know, and they were in their 90s, the parents. And she said her dad, when he retired from engineering, that then he started his own business. And it had to do with like building highways or something like that. And they need these studs. So he named his name was Royal. So his business was called Royal Studs. And so Royal Studs, he started after retirement, and he became even way more successful after his retirement from his regular job to start his own business. And when you say that people do some of their best work in their 90s, I remember talking to his wife. I’m like, so why did he start working again? What was the impetus for that? And she said, oh, well, I told him, I married you for better or worse, but not for lunch every day. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
she wanted to do her own thing so he had to go out and start working again well we just lost my great friend tony bennett and we shared a birthday and stayed in touch for all those years and you know he was coming up on his uh 97th birthday i think it was and um passed away but a lot of people don’t know i mean he slowed down on his uh his singing and his performances, but he became a painter. And some of his paintings have become extremely valuable and very well acclaimed critically. And, you know, he was working right up until the end. And, you know, I think that’s what keeps people young and keeps them going.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that. Well, if people want to find you, where do they go to find you?
SPEAKER 05 :
Jim Stovall, S-T-O-V-A-L-L, jimstovall.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, for a guy, I know you’re a guy who reads a book every day. So if you’re reading a book every day, you want to continue to grow and learn. So you inspire me. I’ll have to think about what my next chapter will be, Jim Stovall. Thank you for that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, friends. Welcome to Good News. Angie Austin and Arlene Pelican is back. She is an old friend of the program. She is an author and speaker. And we’re talking about National Marriage Week. Welcome back, Arlene.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s so good to be with you, Angie. I have missed you. Makes me happy that we are together.
SPEAKER 04 :
Me too. And, you know, you and Mike also had a nice kinship, a camaraderie. And I just sent you pictures because he and I finally met for the first time after probably about a decade of friendship and co-hosting a show together, like a four hour show for several years. And we finally met at the airport. So I just sent you those pictures. What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
It is like adorable that you guys met face to face. And then how funny like to do this show for so long and then be like, hey, it’s me. Hey, it’s you in real life. I just think it’s great.
SPEAKER 04 :
And, you know, I guess because we spent so much time together speaking, you know, like you and I do this way, you know, like you and I haven’t met in person either, which we should make that happen, too. We should make that happen. We’d be the same way. Yeah, it was. It really was like I’d known him all along. Like, you know how you feel awkward when you meet someone sometimes or they’re not the way you expect them to look. But I know him so well or knew him so well that when we did meet, it was just like we had seen each other yesterday, although we’d never actually seen each other.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s so much fun. That’s awesome.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love it. And similar values like you and I have, all those things that lead to the friendship over the radio, the bonds are still there when you actually have an in-person meeting.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it’s the same like if you were to meet a listener, you’d be like, oh, I know you, and they’d feel like you know them, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, and it’s happened with TV, too, where people either hear my voice somewhere or they see me and recognize me, which doesn’t happen a lot anymore. I’ve been off the air TV-wise for like 12 years now. But they act like they know me, and that has happened. Oh, it just happened the other day. I’m friends with basketball team parents and – after I swear we’ve been friends for three years, they just figured out who I was and we were in the hallway and they kind of like screamed a little. She went, Oh my gosh, I just figured it out. You’re Angie Austin. I go, but it was because we were pregnant at the same time. Cause a lot of moms who had kids when I had my kid, like they were pregnant at the same time watching me on TV. And she said to me the next day, she goes, Oh my gosh. So we were sitting at home watching TV last night. And my husband and I, we turned to each other. We went,
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh, we’re friends with Angie Austin. And it was funny because we’ve been friends for three years. The whole time. It’s not new news.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s just funny that they finally put it together. And my daughter thought it was hilarious because, you know, she’s young enough that she didn’t really see me on TV. So she thought it was hysterical. All right. So National Marriage Week. What is this all about, Arlene? Because you’re 25 years in now, aren’t you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Into your sentence. I mean, your marriage. Yes, it is a lovely sentence, a poetic sentence. So yeah, we celebrated our 25th anniversary a few weeks ago and National Marriage Week is a celebration of marriage. So it’s one, it’s a week from February 7th to 14th. Every single year it was founded in 1996. And what it is, is, hey, let’s support marriages. Let’s show that marriage is good for families. It’s good for children. It’s good for cultures. And let’s elevate it. Let’s celebrate it instead of like trashing it. You know, let’s celebrate it. So marriageweek.org is a place you can go for all sorts of ideas. There’s a couple’s connection plan to kind of help you. Like if you feel like, oh, we’re kind of in the stale spot in our marriage, this couple’s connection plan, it’s a free resource that will kind of help you. And also there’s a date night resource where you can find all sorts of creative date nights. And so we are here to celebrate marriage and to say it is a good thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it’s marriageweek.org. That’s right. Marriageweek.org. Okay. Well, let’s get some suggestions. You’re 25 years into this lovely marriage. And you and I have similarly interesting husbands in terms of they think they run the show, even though we might a little, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 01 :
But we definitely let them think that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. We definitely let them think they’re running a show, but yes, this is definitely a team effort. So I’m on the website. Give me some ideas that you and your husband might try out for this marriage week.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. So I think it’s a lovely way. There’s this saying at National Marriage Week of connect daily. date weekly and get away regularly. And I think we can get away from this because we get so busy. But if you just think, hey, I want a daily connection with my spouse, this could be five minutes at the end of the day. We’ve talked, I think, about that. My husband, James, loves to get a foot rub and I’m I’m words of affirmation. So I give him the foot rub and he listens to me. And then that works very lovely. So it’s a daily connection. So it might be sitting on the couch after dinner. It might be a meeting for lunch, you know, or like, you know, something. something when you are daily connecting and then wait wait so it’s up there i’m so you’re getting a foot rub and then you your words of affirmation so while you’re up his feet he’s like you are great arlene i enjoy your company arlene best person ever actually part of that is him listening right so i’m worried so i love talking so he’ll just listen and then he’ll be like thank you so much you’re like i really appreciated that you’re the best you’re right you are right to this You are great, Arlene. You are great, Arlene.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are the best foot massager, Arlene. It’s funny that he likes to talk because my kid jumped in the car yesterday, and I said, Annette, he was talking about the kids, and I don’t like him to do that when a kid gets in because they’re all spies, right? So if we’re talking about one kid, every single word verbatim that we said about the one. Yes. You know, you have three. So I said, hey, Faith just jumped in the car. So let’s talk later. And then she looks at the screen, you know, because my phone was connected like you guys do in California connected in the car. She goes, oh, my gosh, you just talked to him for 32 minutes. You know, I said, well, you know how dad likes to talk. She’s like, oh, please.
SPEAKER 03 :
But see, this is lovely. This is your daily connection. You guys are connecting daily. I love that.
SPEAKER 04 :
It was so funny. And when you say date weekly, boy, you know, with three teenagers, that’s a tough one. Like once a month’s even tough. And we’ll do like a movie. And then if a kid wants to come along, we’ll bring the kid to the movie. But they usually don’t want to sit with us anyway. You know, like we kind of go to the movie and, you know, we’ll sit somewhere and they might bring friends and they’ll sit someplace else. So it’s kind of a pseudo date. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. And you know what? When you’re in those years, I think part of that keeping the dating ritual going is that when you’re empty nesters, then it’s not so odd. Like what in the world are we supposed to do now that we don’t have our children to do all these things with? So that regularity. So it might be once a month. They did a survey, you know, asking like, how often do you date? And 48% of people said once or twice a month, but 52% of people said never or just a few times a year. So you’re trying to kind of get in that more in between that once and twice a month, or, you know, you don’t want to be in that never or a few times a year. Cause what they found was if they dated regularly once or twice a month, they saw a 15% boost in things like overall happiness, happy with the communication, sexually satisfied, not likely to divorce. All those things got a boost just if they would date once or twice a month. So of course date weekly, that’s kind of the nice goal. And then what ends up probably happening is twice a month. But if you just say like no goal, then it’s kind of like, yeah, we had dinner like six months ago. So it is good to have that connection. And it could be as simple as like going to fast food by yourselves. Like it doesn’t have to be this crazy elaborate thing, but just something that’s just the two of you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and you know, we both have thrifty husbands. So I know that in some relationships that Costco free sample date night is considered a date. Like you’re shopping and you get free samples. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you can go around twice and be like, hey, it’s date night. I want another one, please. Go around twice. That’s hilarious. I feel so sorry for you. This is your date night. Yeah, take another.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or you grab two, right? You grab two and you’re like, oh, Bill, you want one too? You know, and they just pretend, you know, make up like, oh, yeah, there’s some. Yeah, get one for my kid or whatever. And then your husband gets two. Then you don’t even have to make two rounds.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
More efficient. Hilarious. But you got to be careful though. I’ve heard, especially in Cali, there’ve been a couple like fistfights over free samples. So you got to watch yourself with it.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’re very nice at our local Costco for the most part.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that. All right. What other things you think have made your marriage last and be happy for 25 years with the three teenagers?
SPEAKER 03 :
There is this lovely idea from John Gottman who has researched marriage. And what he talks about is one of the key ways to know, like, is a couple going to make it is do they pay attention to each other? Do they pay attention to each other? And I love this because it’s so simple. It’s not like, oh, I have to do this new thing, you know, for 10 hours a day. It’s just is my if my spouse speaks, am I just like, whatever, whatever. Or am I like, hey, what’s going on? I want to know. So what he found was some couples, like one couple he observed, the husband was talking about a military coup at this country he had just flown from, and the wife was completely disinterested. And in another couple, the man was just talking about how his mother made bread, and the wife was just entranced by this. It’s just this idea of when your spouse says something, what is your posture? Are you even interested in what they’re saying? I think this is something obviously not every single time we are, but it’s a way that James and I through the 25 years is that you do care. If If you’re forgetting to care, you remind yourself, no, I need to care about this because this is my person, my most important person. And if I don’t care about them, who in the world is going to? And obviously vice versa. And I think a lot of it is going first. We sometimes think, well, he doesn’t care about me, so I’m not going to care about him. And that kind of selfishness, right, that’s kind of what puts the discontent in a marriage. But if you say, I’ll go first, you know, I’m going to care about you. then very likely you married a decent person that’s going to be like, Oh yeah, I’m going to reciprocate. You care about me. I’m going to care about you. So don’t be afraid to be first.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love that to be the first one to be, you know, giving, et cetera. Now, how do you feel about, this is one that’s a tough one. I think vacationing alone, because with the kids, they are so fun and you know, we have limited time with them because ours are about the same age that, you know, how do you handle, that and we and we have to and I also have to find out do I know one of your kids is at college now and then the two high school age kids do who has phones because I know that that your kids as of like a year ago no one had phones yeah so it’s still my college age student has phones and my high school senior and my high school sophomore don’t have phones I have all we have offered and they’re like nope we’re good so it’s it’s it’s pretty in there
SPEAKER 03 :
Um, but in terms of vacation is to, if we’re going somewhere like amazing, it’s like, oh no, no, we must go that with all the children, you know, like it’s like, oh, we have to do that all together. But if it’s like, oh, you know, either someplace my kids have been already, uh, like right now we’re talking about a Las Vegas trip, just the two of us, you know? So it’s like, okay, my kids have been there before you and I could just go there. Or we just love the 24 hour getaway that you’re just, you know, most of us have a place within one or two hours. That’s a nice place to get away. So I think those little one to two hour away, one, you know, 24 hour getaways are really nice once a year. maybe twice a year, if you can swing it, because if you are 24 hours away, it’s a totally new feeling. And it’s a good feeling to reconnect with your spouse. And like, you know, when you have older kids, like mine’s 13. So now if we go away, they’re like, yes, this is awesome. One full day without the parents. They love it. Like it’s, it’s not a bad thing for the kids either. And obviously if your kids are smaller, then this is something that maybe you trade off with another family that you do a 24 hour getaway and they watch your kids and vice versa, or maybe grandparents, et cetera. But I think that’s a really lovely thing to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I love that. And you know, We do the big trips with the kids too, but one interesting perk of the kids being in club sports is Vegas is one of our trips. And so the kids travel with their teams, so they don’t stay with us. So we kind of get like, we get to watch them during the day and have like that fun day of watching our kid play sports, whatever. And then at night we can go to shows and go out to dinner and it’s completely separate from them because they have to stay with their team.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it’s perfect. It’s kind of built in.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, built in like vacation. So that’s really how we’ve been able to do that in general. Well, I love it that your kids aren’t, you know, interested in getting a phone and that’s of their own choice in high school. And then your college kid, does he just use it kind of to keep in touch with you? He’s not a big social media guy.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s done really well with it. He’s got an old iPhone, which he kind of did on purpose. So it’s not the latest and greatest. It’s kind of slow and clunky. And he just… wants to use it for whatever apps he needs for school to text people to coordinate meeting with people but he’s very much you know he’s really into uh being with his friends they hang out a lot in real life they have a rock climbing wall at the gym he’s kind of picked that up he’s doing ultimate frisbee on their club team so he’s doing a lot he’s he’s doing great so i’m wonderful yeah so uh tell us again where to find national marriage week and you and your website Yeah, marriageweek.org, marriageweek.org. And just get that boost for your own marriage. Get ideas for how you can share this in your community because it’s basically trying to give marriage, you know, a second chance. I think a lot of people, young people especially, think like, ah, that might not be for me. And it’s really time for us to show like, wait a minute, they show statistically, like if you have a college degree, you have a 64% boost of happiness. We all think as young people, that’s going to make me so happy. And you can look around and be like, that’s not really making people that happy. So 64% boost for college. But if you’re happily married, a 545% boost in people’s reported happiness. So marriage is something really beautiful to share. So marriageweek.org. And of course, you can find my books, more about me at my name, ArlenePellicane.com.
SPEAKER 04 :
Excellent. Thanks, Marlene. A real blessing to have you back.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks so much, Angie.
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Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
