In this episode, Angie Austin welcomes back Scott Montgomery, the insightful author of ‘How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success’. Scott shares his journey of turning his unconventional path into actionable lessons. Dive into a deep discussion about the role of strong partnerships at home and how they lay the foundation for professional success. Explore the details of his first chapter on partnerships, where Scott describes his personal experiences and key questions to foster healthy partnerships.
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welcome to the good news with angie austin now with the good news here’s angie
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Hey there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. Well, he is back, Scott Montgomery, author of How Did You Get Here? Lessons of Unconventional Success. And we decided we’re going to keep having Scott come back about once a month, and we’re going to go over the chapters of the book and kind of break down success and how you got here in life and these lessons of unconventional success. Welcome back, Scott.
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Thank you, Angie. It’s such a pleasure to be here, and I’m so looking forward to it.
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Now, give everyone just a little snippet, if they didn’t hear our first interview, just how you got to where you are, because your path was unconventional.
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It really was. And as it was unconventional, I was trying to figure out a way that I could pay that forward to other folks who feel like maybe their path is a little unconventional. So during COVID and in the process of some of life’s changes, I decided to put pen to paper and start to unpack those lessons. As I’m older in my career and starting to look at retirement years ahead, I thought, how can I capture what was unconventional and make it conventional for my readers and for the next generation. So I put pen to paper and created a book and I think it’s going over well for folks. And I’m excited to talk about its different chapters and the different things that I found drove some of the successes that I’m experiencing today.
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All right. You’ve talked a lot about the people you work with and some of them you work with many years ago and how important all of those connections are. So let’s just start, you know, we’ve got your chapter one is partnership, two relationships, three habits, four goals. We’ll be going through all of those, but let’s see how far we get today in partnership from how did you get here?
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So what I did with partnerships was I started at home base, and I really went into the deep dive on how my wife and I, who is also the president of the company that I’m the chief customer officer at, really created a partnership over the last 20 years to manage kids, manage ourselves and our own interests, manage the finances, and do it all successfully. And so I dedicated a chapter to what did we do in our relationship in hindsight that people might want to consider doing for their relationships Or as I put them, partnerships in their world to drive some of their successes. And at the end of the chapter, I put five questions to the reader that sort of drive the instigation of what are you doing to be in good partnership? And I think it’s going over well. So that first chapter is mostly about home base.
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All right, so when you say partnership, exactly, you’re talking about home and how it’s important that things flow well there in order to do well in business. But I just have to ask you a quick question because we’re kind of in the same kid stage. You said 20 years. Have you guys been married 20 years?
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We’re going to be 24. We got married in 2000. We’re going to be 24 years married. We dated for four years before that. Yeah.
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Okay, so did we, and we were at 20 years of marriage just a few days ago.
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When’s your birthday? Because I swear we’re living the exact same parallel life.
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I know our kids are getting their driver’s license. You just went for a driver’s license test. I’m going today with one of my kids. Your son just graduated. My son just graduated. I mean, it is pretty funny. We’re definitely dealing with the same things in our home base.
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Yeah, yeah. And that partnership is really important, and I think people underestimate its power.
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Yes, I agree. I think they do underestimate its power because I’ve thought before, if things aren’t going well at home, I don’t know how anything else can go well. So I think it just trickles its ugly veins into everything if things are going poorly at home. So give us some of your tips for chapter one partnership.
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Well, so what comes up for me in our conversation, and you just said it yourself, was I really did not rush the marriage card. I dated for four years, and I think you just said you did as well. And we really unpacked where we were in life and what we wanted in life, and we really worked on our communication. And when we got married, we had vowed divorce was not an option. So we said that word isn’t to be used in fights, and it’s not to be used. And it sounds all quintessential and wonderful, but it’s actually a true commitment to what we did when we decided to get married. And we actually started our life together in a separate than where either of us grew up place to create that sort of fresh start or new foundation. And I think for me, that’s what comes up in that initial tip of really vet out what it is you’re looking for in a partner. And then further, for Kate and I, my wife’s name is Caitlin, and I call her Kate. Kate is very much a string to my kite. We very much carried two different roles in our worlds. She definitely grounds my visionary, and she’s very tactical and very implementing. I’m very strategic, and I’m out there trying to find the next best thing. And she’s very like, what does that mean? How do we apply it? How do we integrate it? And she doesn’t start with no, so it’s not an oppressive thing, but I refer to it as a chitin string. I’m flying up in the air, and she’s got the string kind of keeping me grounded. And I think that’s a really nice balance for us that I tell stories about in the book.
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Now, how do you and you can tell one of the stories here, too. How do you manage it when the string wants to take the kite somewhere the kite doesn’t want to go? I mean, there’s lots of like, you know, my husband liked me working full time in TV news. I made good money and I was a big contributor. And now when I do radio, I make a fraction of what I used to make and I don’t work that many hours. And yeah. know with the kids a lot more than he is able to be with the kids and that wasn’t his choice i don’t think but he’s adjusted to it he’s flown his kite to my string but he wouldn’t he wouldn’t have wanted to go in that direction but now that it is he’s fine with it but i thought he’d really be bothered by he loved that i was a good contributor and that i was good with my money and that i saved a lot for retirement and that i owned you know properties over the years and you know, paid cash for my cars and didn’t drive brand new cars. And he liked all that frugal stuff I did to save. So I figured, oh, he’s not going to like this. Like, in fact, when I would say like, well, I want to work part time or I want to retire, he’d say, I want to retire. Well, I don’t think that’s really solving. I was not solving my issue. That was not every time I brought it up. Oh, I’d like to work part time or retire or spend more time with the kids. Well, I’d like to retire. And so I’m like, OK, that’s not saying it’s OK for me to do that. So what do you do when I just kind of eventually did it? It kind of was decided for me as my career changed and things cut back. So it gradually kind of happened to me regardless of what he wanted. And then I accepted it. I didn’t go out and look for another big, you know, 50-hour-a-week job.
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Well, you know what’s funny about what you’re talking about for me is that I have a lot of friends in our age group who have brought with them – I’m losing the word, the ability to pivot, right? The unforeseen and the unexpected. And just the other day, a friend of mine said, well, my husband isn’t working right now. I’ve told him to go get a job, but realizing what the summer is going to hold with my kids and my career, and I’m the breadwinner, it’s just better he doesn’t even look for a job right now. And quite frankly, we both then chuckled and said, can you imagine saying that 20 years ago? So just the ability to pivot and the ability to way the options that are laid out in front of you are so key and one of the other things that i was going to say around that is that we’re going to go over chapter six communication and how you actually communicate your needs and desires and how that really does impact how you drive the future and and it can it can be all the difference in the world my cousin has the most stubborn husband and when i say like oh well let’s go to florida with the cousins in february
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And we used to do it almost every year. And she’s like, well, I’ve got to plant the seed. So like six months before, and then she goes, I have to work on him for a while. Like six months before we do something, she’d plant the seed. And then I think she just kind of like, it’s like gnawing on an ear of corn. She’d gradually gnaw him down. And then he finally, and then she would have to like make every meal, make every dessert. place it in the freezer with a note this is how you warm this up this is the day you eat this by yourself taking care of only you i am going to map out each of your days the way i do when i am at home and then finally communication right there isn’t it oh my gosh like he thinks he’s running the show but she is it just takes her a very very long time to run it
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Yeah, no. And I think that is it is a form of communication, whether or not you and I would want that form of communication is a different story.
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But exhausting.
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I can’t imagine. And, you know, we all we all have to bring that sort of ability to pivot. But what it sounds like for me and what you’re describing, too, is quite frankly, my kids are better served by their mom being more available than their dad. I can’t remember all the things that moms bring in their genetic coding that is supporting those kids more effectively. And that has a cost. And that cost is a better reward in my children than it is a dollar sign in my checking account. And I think that’s the parallel you’re in, too. And now, while Kaylin is the president of WorldGate, we were very succinct in what the roles here would be. She’s the president. She’s a co-founder. But she’s also in charge of finance and HR, which creates flexibility for doctor’s appointments and kid demands. I’m sales and marketing and operation. I’ve got to deliver, and I’ve got to do it around my customer, which means I’ve got to get on a plane and go somewhere. then that we’ve communicated that well and we charted that out up front.
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And it hasn’t stopped. potholes but yes it has this pot it always does but then you just somebody’s better driving around the potholes or filling them than the other but it’s um interesting to me because i just did an interview with um the author of men are like spaghetti women are like no sorry men are like waffles women are like spaghetti and i only got to um interview bill the waffle uh and not and not bam the spaghetti but um it’s interesting because he talks about men and how um each square of the waffle like you only work on the one square and when you finish that square you move on to the next square But women, everything in their lives are connected and they can do a bunch of things at once. And like just as you were talking, saying about multitasking, I’m like, oh, we need eggs. So I wrote down eggs, you know, like it’s just.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. It’s a gift. I mean, you know, recognize your gifts and your partner. Right, right, right. And play to those strengths. And what is the outcome? I wanted healthy kids. I wanted kids that had access to their mom. She wanted to be more of a mom than a business person. We still needed to make money. And she also still didn’t want to detach from the working world.
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Yes.
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You know, and we could do that all when we got a client base versus being an employer. And that was part of the strategy of even opening Worldgate, which is also one of the chapters of our book later at the end. We talk about the firm and how it’s developed, but. You’d be surprised, and people who are listening today would be surprised how many clients respect that model as well.
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Oh, I believe that.
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And how much they in themselves are trying to map their employment as a client to that model by engaging our services that brings that model. So it’s fascinating. All right.
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If you are just joining us, we’re talking to Scott Montgomery. How did you get here is the book. How did you get here? Lessons of unconventional success because, you know, Scott’s path was unconventional. All right. So you said you had examples in chapter one partnership. We’re talking about starting your success at home, at your home base. And in your particular case, you’re married. So any examples that you gave us in the book that you might want to share with us?
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Yeah, I think for us, and I think what we were chatting about is the communication aspect and the personality awareness and the demand and desires of what we wanted to do were talked about up front. And so there was deliberate conversation around how we were going to invest our time, how we wanted to raise our children, and how we were going to map these things out. And people don’t always appreciate that’s a very tactical conversation for us that we found success as a result of having. It wasn’t, I was just sort of morphed and I didn’t know what she expected and she didn’t know what I expected. We were very deliberate and we were very succinct in what we did and how we rolled out. We also rolled out our roles and responsibilities in that so that we felt a little bit of ownership around what we brought to the table. So I don’t impose on what finance and HR, they tell me what I can spend and how many people I can hire and what I do. And at home, she tells me where I need to be and what doctor’s appointment I have to drive the kid to or She tells me where to be and when, and I don’t try and disrupt that.
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Gosh, it just shows me, Scott, how similar men and women are because my husband, he got sick of seeing the whole schedule. And so like, it’s because it’s complicated. I mean, yesterday, Hope had three practices. Riley had one, and he had to be at CU, and he had to be at his job, and the other had two practices. And they’re all at different locations. So that’s five, six, seven, seven locations. So he just said… look, I just need to know where I need to be at what time.
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That’s right. That’s right. And so on the flip side of that, he’ll make sure you have enough money to afford the gas.
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Right. And he’ll make sure the cars have good tires and the oil is changed. And I make all of the appointments and I get him his physical and his teeth cleaned and all that. So funny. All right, Scott, give us your website for how did you get here? It’s www.howdidyougethere.com. Well, that’s easy enough. All right. We’ll talk to you next month and we’ll bump up the chapter too. Thanks, Scott. I look forward to it. Thank you, Angie. Have a great day. You too.
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If you are just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the Good News. Well, if you want to have a great party, like maybe a New Year’s Eve party, there’s no one better to ask than Chef Jamie Gwynn. Jamie is a former MasterChef judge, a Culinary Institute of America and Le Cordon Bleu graduate, a celebrity chef. She’s got a nationally syndicated show. She’s a sommelier and a seven-time cookbook author, and she’s one of my favorites.
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Welcome back, Jamie.
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Oh, Angie, thank you. What a lovely introduction. You are one of my favorites too. And thank you for a wonderful year of allowing me to grace your show and happy holidays. Or you know what I like to say, Angie? What? Season’s eating.
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Oh my gosh, you’re such a funny nerd. I love that.
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I know. That’s so Sheffy, isn’t it?
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You’re so extra Sheffy. Okay, so let’s talk. Extra Sheffy. Yes, you are. That’s what my kids would say. You’re so extra, Mom. I’m like, good. I’d love to embarrass you.
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I got like high top sneakers, like Chuck Taylor’s high top, and they’re all sequined, and they hate them so much, and their platform. I just love to be extra around teenagers.
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Wear them every day.
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So let’s start with… I really do.
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My child is still too young for me to embarrass him.
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Oh, your time is coming. Your time is coming.
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It’s coming. I know it is.
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Yeah, I’ve got three of them.
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So there’s lots of good times for us. All right. So let’s talk about recipes that, you know, like if I were coming to your house and you really want to impress me, Jamie, but you don’t want to spend too much time in the kitchen because you still want to have fun with your guests. So what are some sure to impress recipes that won’t take, you know, all day to make?
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Holiday hacks, I like to call it in the nicest sense of the word, because really the holidays, I know you would agree, Angie, are not the time. to start trying new recipes or, you know, being adventurous that way. The holidays are when we make what everybody loves, but we can elevate, we can add a new ingredient or pump up the flavor, or we could change the presentation essentially and have a whole new look. And that’s what I do. So with this first starter idea, you’re just going to kind of change it up. I love a charcuterie board with the best of them ever trending, right? But I like to elevate my board during the holiday season, and I make a beautiful olive wreath. So instead of a rectangular board or a platter, yeah, you take fresh rosemary sprigs, or you can use like Christmas flat foliage like the garland and stuff, as long as it’s not sprayed. Fresh herbs from the garden work great here. And on a board, you’re going to create that circle wreath. Right. All the way around with the herbs. And then you start filling it with your favorite olives and smoked salami and Parmesan chunks and Spanish almonds, etc. Now, you know, I love Pearl’s olives. I am a very long time. Yes, me too. They employ. Yes, they employ all Americans. And I love that. But it’s their ripe black olives that my son loves. And it’s the imported specialties that I love. Each Pearl’s Olive, by the way, is hand-picked and hand-packed. The Blue Cheese Scuffed Olives, the Garlic Scuffed Olives, the Kalamatas, the Castor Beltrano. And when you assemble all those olives in this wreathed pattern, you get this most beautiful presentation. And what’s fabulous about it too, Angie, is it’s a great starter for a holiday feast. It’s a good cocktail pairing. Everybody loves olives, but nobody fills up before you’re about to like sit down to the biggest meal of the year. So it’s really just a gorgeous way to up your game.
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I love that. And I know in California, they have people that like their job is to come over and make these charcuterie boards. That’s not so big where I live in the Rocky Mountain region. But I’m telling you, my kids are obsessed with olives. I think I’ve told you that before. And it’s the weirdest thing. Like we’ll get an olive pizza. And I love those olives. You actually kind of turned me on to them, the extra flavors, because I’d always gotten the plain pearl, you know, just the basics. Yeah.
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Sure. The black. Yeah. And I’m so glad I did turn you on to them because I’m sure you’ve paid it forward. It amazes me when I put out this board that people like are drawn to it. They want to taste all the different kinds and it becomes very interactive, which I think is wonderful.
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Yeah. Oh, I love it.
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I love the perfect starter.
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Yeah. And finger foods. Okay.
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What else? Here we go. Everybody’s favorites. OK, let’s say you have last minute people coming or, you know, you didn’t realize there’s more. The more the merrier. I always worry I’m not going to have enough food. I mean, my mom cooked like the army was coming to dinner, but they never came. Just in case you need an extra side dish and you really want the perfect pairing. This is it. So Bush’s baked beans are not just for barbecue. Bush’s baked beans make an extraordinary side dish at the holidays. Why? Well, they’re delicious. And everybody loves them. And isn’t that what we want to serve, right? So I have childhood memories of Bush’s baked beans. My mom adds brown sugar and yellow mustard to a can of brown sugar hickory, and they’re absolutely delicious. I add brisket and burnt ends, and I put it out for football. Oh, yeah, we have armchair quarterbacks in my house, and they are very happy. And then if you think about it, if you’re making a smoked turkey next week at the holidays or you’re making a spiral ham or a beef tenderloin, what could be better than like the sweetness of the beans paired? It’s really hearty. It’s comforting. Add your own twist. Throw in some smoked paprika. I mean, it’s just a really great go-to, right? And then Bush’s also has a zero sugar added baked beans that I love. it’s a very popular flavor for them. And it’s the iconic flavor without the added sugar. So I just think that’s a great go-to.
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Well, and they have a genius marketing campaign with that dog, the Duke or whatever his name is.
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Yeah, it’s so smart. They also have a vegetarian version of their beans. I’m far from a vegetarian, but my vegetarian friends think it’s like the best.
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Hmm.
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All right. How about something, you know, do you make anything that complements any meal?
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Well, gosh, yes, I hope I do. I’m big on orzo right now. It’s like my go-to. Looks like rice, tastes like pasta. It’s actually a pasta. So I have a warm orzo salad going on the table for the holiday feast. Mine is Mediterranean-inspired. And then do you know that I have a terrible sweet tooth, Angie, like in the worst possible way?
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No, I do, too. I’ll buy a whole cake at Costco for myself.
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Oh, good for you. That’s my kind of girl. Okay. I also have an almost five-year-old who is very jaded, right? Because his mommy is a chef.
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Right.
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So when it comes to chilly winters, I say, please ditch the holiday packet of chocolate powder that you buy to make hot chocolate.
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Yes.
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And make my hot chocolate spoons. So here’s what you’re going to do. You’re going to pull out the chocolate chips and chunks and like the half bag left here and the half bag in the pantry. And you’re going to melt the chocolate. And then you’re going to grab an ice cube tray, preferably silicone. And you’re going to fill all the squares with the melted chocolate. And you’re going to stick in a wooden spoon. I keep those for lunch boxes. Or you could use a popsicle stick.
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Yeah.
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Or you could use a chopstick, a wooden one, you know, where you have that whole drawer of those. And then you’re going to top the melted chocolate squares with mini marshmallows or crushed candy canes or your favorite sprinkles. Throw that mold in the fridge, and when it sets solid, peel those squares of gorgeous solid chocolate out and heat up a cup of milk. And when it’s hot, have your kiddo put the block of chocolate and start stirring with that spoon in there, and you get the richest, most delicious chocolate. One ingredient, fabulous hot chocolate, Angie. Now, my kid thinks I’m a culinary hero because we have hot chocolate every night now. And when it gets stressful for the grownups, just spike it.
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Oh, I love that. And it’s healthier, too. Like, you can get some really great grass-fed, you know, milk that, you know, with the DHA and whatever in it. You know, I get all that. And it’s really nice because my kids are all athletes. And one of them just got a scholarship to play at college. So I’m trying to give them, like, a lot of protein.
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Oh, congratulations.
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Oh, thank you. She’s going to play volleyball.
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Good for you. I love that. That’s awesome.
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So I love the protein in the milk.
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Yes. Yes, and it’s a testament to like a one ingredient wonder, right? You can take your leftover chocolate, melt it down and make the best hot chocolate. And do you even know what’s in the packet?
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Right.
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I mean, it’s got an agent in it that keeps the powder moving around. I don’t want to feed my kiddo that. And that’s why the ingredients that I share with you and that I know that I love, I trust.
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Right.
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And that’s what, you know, keeping our family well fed is all about, especially at the holiday season when everyone gathers.
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Yeah.
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By the way, Angie, I posted pictures, tutorials. Go ahead, please.
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Oh, I just said I don’t want any foreign agents in my hot cocoa. No, thank you. Where are the pictures? Where can we get everything?
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Of course, tutorials, recipes, and more at dailylounge.com.
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Dailylounge.com. Dailylounge.com. All right, I know we’re almost out of time, but I have to tell you. And I have Chef Jamie Gwynn. Oh, Chef Jamie Gwynn. My friend Christine Devine works across town from you at Fox, and we had a big girls’ party. And one of my girlfriends said, oh, my gosh, my ex-husband did all this work for me, and so I sent him over a charcuterie board, and his wife answered the door. And then he sent me a message that said, please, no more charcuterie boards. Yes.
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His wife got it. All right, Jamie, you’re the best. Thank you so much.
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Angie, thank you. Happy holidays. I hope to see you in 2025.
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Me too. Bye. I just always love my conversations with Jamie. I think she’s so interesting. And I guess because I lived in the same neck of the woods in Los Angeles for so long, I just can relate to her. I don’t know. I just think she’s neat. She actually works at one of the stations that one of my good friends works for. Anyway, let’s go through some of the fun Christmas traditions because I love a good tradition. I think I told you one of my girlfriends, Michelle Ron, every year, the grandkids, everybody in the family, they do, like, memories. And they do memories of Christmas and the favorite things that have gone on that year. And they’ve written on this tablecloth for years. And she’s on the second one now, I think. Yeah. And then she puts like a little piece of like, you know, plastic over the top of it, like a plastic tablecloth. So it doesn’t all bleed together. Anyway, some of the cool traditions, Christmas movie marathons, making gingerbread houses. We’ve done that several years and the kids had a blast doing it. And they were a little bit younger. They’re teenagers now, but they still really enjoyed it. Some of the different Christmas parades. There’s also, you know, the zoo, they do like zoo lights. And I know some of the cities have some really neat ones, uh, I’d love to do the San Diego Zoo one, but we’re not going there this year. Christmas tree farms. That might be something you could do a little bit earlier. Oh, ice skating. My daughter did it last night. I think it was $15 and she got to skate for like an hour and a half. Now, caroling, I’m not as big a fan of because I’m not the type that likes to like knock on people’s doors and whatever. But if you have a close knit community, I think it could be kind of fun. Do you? Yeah, maybe. I mean, why not, right? Write letters to Santa. Of course, that’s if you’ve got, like, grandkids or younger kids. Christmas stocking exchanges where you fill the stocking with sweets and different things. Oh, and I like, too, like, baking, like, kind of like – a signature sweet. I think that’s kind of fun. My girlfriend used to bake a birthday cake for Jesus every year. I thought that was a sweet tradition she did with her grandkids. I like that idea. I never did that, but how sweet is that? And, you know, Christmas ornaments every year. I usually give the kids a new Christmas ornament and then I date it. I think that’s kind of a fun thing to do. I’ve kind of fallen off, you know, not that they’re teenagers. I’ve fallen off some of the things I normally do, but I think they still want to do them. So maybe I should get my act together. I still have a few days, right? And do a few of these things that they really enjoy. But the Christmas movie marathon. I know we want to watch Christmas Vacation. And we love Elf. And so that’s really fun as well. And the gingerbread houses. The kids have always liked that. I think the girls would still want to do that. I don’t know. I’m really surprised of my son. He’s 19 now. He likes to do a lot of the same things we used to do. It’s kind of cute. All right. This is Angie Austin with the good news. I hope you have a terrific day. And I hope you try some of these ideas.
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